Exactly, April. rubbercripple's claims of being a friend of transgender people sounds more and more meaningless by the day.
Let me try this one more time.
Rubbercripple, you have yourself provided the answer to your question regarding the similarities between the autoerotic aspect of the sexuality of trans women and the autoerotic aspect of the sexuality of cis women:
April: Exactly! "they need to imagine themselves in a body they weren't born into to make this work."
Please meditate on that one.
Both trans and non-transgender women (which means the same as offending "cis" word, but may not annoy you in the same way) may get aroused by the idea of being a sexy, attractive, woman. This is natural. This is healthy. This is a way of preparing yourself for a sexual life out there with other people. It is not narcissistic. It is not pathological. It simply is what it is.
Pre-transitioning transgender women do not have a body that is compatible with such fantasies or feelings. So they imagine themselves having a female body. Then they get aroused by the fantasy of being a sexy woman. Same thing. Different context. Not pathological. Not a disease.
Now, Barbara adds another dimension to this, quoting a woman who get aroused by the idea of being another s
exy woman, which brings trans and non-transgender sexuality even closer. The thing is: Role playing and "what if" dream scenarios is a natural part of any person's sexuality. So please stop supporting an ideology whose main aim is to exclude trans women from our common humanity!
I am going to post this video one more time. It is a humorous take on "feeling sexy" among gay men. Same thing again, although this one takes it to the extreme.