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Anything that can be used against trans people will be used against trans people. One such thing is to compare the crossdreamers desire to be their target sex with people dressing up as plush animals.

Yepp, it is a long story and I am not going to rehash that one, but here is an interesting article that looks into the flurry community. It turns out we do have something in common, namely the insessant need of some people to turn everything into a sexual perversion.

More Than Just a Pretty Face: Unmasking Furry Fandom

Dr. Courtney Plantea research psychologist, co-founder, and lead analyst of the International Anthropomorphic Research Project (IARP) writes:
There are a number of common misconceptions about furries. Typical misconceptions often reduce the fandom to little more than a fetish or "sex thing", infusing sex with elements of the fandom that are not inherently sexual. For example, about 15-20% of furries wear elaborate costumes called "fursuits" in much the same way anime fans cosplay as their favorite characters. However, unlike anime, furries are often assumed to engage in fursuiting for sexual reasons, despite the fact that this is very rarely the case.

Similarly, people assume that an interest in anthropomorphic animal characters is akin to an "animal fetish" or sexual attraction to animals—something that, again, is not borne out by the data, which show that furries are no more likely to be sexually attracted to animals than the general population.

Yet another misconception about furries is based on the assumption that there is something "wrong" with furries—that pathology needs to be invoked to "explain" why a furry becomes a furry. Despite this misconception, evidence shows that furries are no more likely to have been diagnosed with any sort of mental illness, and studies routinely find that furries are just as happy and well-adjusted as anyone else in the general population. 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/standard-deviations/201705/more-just-pretty-face-unmasking-furry-fandom
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May 14 17 4:44 AM

Interesting article with a sensible balanced viewpoint.

I find it pretty commonplace that to some people in the world every type of behaviour that doesn't fit the norm  quickly get's labelled as a kink. At the end of the day I personally feel this Furry phenomenon is just like Cosplay with it's many Anime fans and it's just an outlet for people that happen to like anthromorphic creatures. I say let them do what makes them happy.

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May 14 17 4:45 AM

I am reminded of Native American costumes that have animal heads or sometimes even creatures not recognizable at all. Many other cultures around the world have similar costumes. People, particularly shamans, don the costumes because they either know that they can feel the spirit of the costume or they want to merge with the costume.

No one would put shame into such cultural identity practices, but transgender identities? Hhhmmm.
(This is what happens when trans issues get caught up with the other letters of a particular community.)

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May 14 17 9:21 AM

Yes 'cosplay', which don't fully understand.. There are things like military re-enactment societies, where members dress up in the uniforms of the Napoleonic wars, or the American civil war. A harmless activity which doesn't float my boat (though I'm interested in the history) but do its participants actually want to live in the 18th/19th centuries? Do they get some personal identification thing?

What about people who get their kick from the 'human baby' thing? Is that more 'sexual'? Are there parallel with 'forced feminisation' in that, is I t about relinquishing responsibilities?

Then there are people who actually feel for identity purposes they should lose a limb or two?

There are so many things to which transgenderism can be compared and sometimes are.... but I don't think any of them stand up to much scrutiny....

Spending ones life dressed up as a furry animal or someone from a bygone era isn't practical. Most of us now and accept we grow up and pass through the stages of life. And while some people unfortunately do lose limbs by accident or illness, I'd say that even if we make accessibility a key area of public policy, one is at a disadvantage if one loses a part

But being transgendered is different I think because it is a need/desire to live in a form that half the population manages quite successfully - the need to battle sexism etc withstanding.

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May 15 17 4:22 AM

I like the shaman angle. The more I learn about myths and magic, the more I realise that they are hardwired into us, and that we might as well respect this side of us. Shamans transformed into animals (mentally, I suppose) in order to explore their way of being. By doing this they probably gained a better insight into their animalistic selves.

But there is another approach to this too: civil war enactments, halloween parties, cosplay, are all examples of make-believe and play. This is what kids do all the time. This is their way of learning and adapting. So you might as well say that furrydom and cosplay is the way adults learn like they did when kids.

As for the baby thing: That looks very much like psychological regression to me. Traumatized people may imagine themselves back to a time when things were simpler and adults took care of you. That might be helpful for a period of time. Unfortunately, the ones that need such fantasies are often those that were neglected by their parents.

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May 15 17 4:50 AM

PipX wrote:
Yes 'cosplay', which don't fully understand.. There are things like military re-enactment societies, where members dress up in the uniforms of the Napoleonic wars, or the American civil war. A harmless activity which doesn't float my boat (though I'm interested in the history) but do its participants actually want to live in the 18th/19th centuries? Do they get some personal identification thing?

What about people who get their kick from the 'human baby' thing? Is that more 'sexual'? Are there parallel with 'forced feminisation' in that, is I t about relinquishing responsibilities?

Then there are people who actually feel for identity purposes they should lose a limb or two?

There are so many things to which transgenderism can be compared and sometimes are.... but I don't think any of them stand up to much scrutiny....

Spending ones life dressed up as a furry animal or someone from a bygone era isn't practical. Most of us now and accept we grow up and pass through the stages of life. And while some people unfortunately do lose limbs by accident or illness, I'd say that even if we make accessibility a key area of public policy, one is at a disadvantage if one loses a part

But being transgendered is different I think because it is a need/desire to live in a form that half the population manages quite successfully - the need to battle sexism etc withstanding.

Since I've known people who are into military/historical re-enactment I understand that it is a way for them to get away from their modern lives for the weekend and express themselves as someone else with like minded others because strange though it may sound some of them feel they were born in the wrong time. A small amount of them use it as a fantasy escape and can even be obesessive, others do it for enjoyment as well as for education purposes to present a kind of "living history". Like any hobby you get the practical sensible people along with a smaller amount of nutcases.

Dressing up as a furry animal is certainly not practical and I doubt they do the cooking, cleaning and ironing in those suits because that would get sweaty/tiresome and very quickly you'd see the local casualty department flooded with foxes, rabbits and bears. For most of them I believe its a role playing thing and if you actually look at serious Cosplay enthusiasts it would amaze you how much effort and creativity they put into it so I certainly appreciate some of the artistic merits. 

The thing is much like you I find you can't compare these things with being transgender because to be transgender is not roleplaying and it certainly isn't a choice. The only choice in my opinion is how you choose to come to terms with it.

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